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	<title>Comments on: What if we allocated aid $ based on how much damage something does, and whether we know how to fix it?</title>
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	<description>duncan green poverty to power oxfam development</description>
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		<title>By: LD</title>
		<link>http://www.oxfamblogs.org/fp2p/?p=13838&#038;cpage=1#comment-451201</link>
		<dc:creator>LD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Mar 2013 16:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deaths from armed conflict is a bit of a misnomer- it&#039;s not conflict itself that kills people, but rather the secondary impact on health, education, lack of jobs etc. Conflict related deaths would be much higher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deaths from armed conflict is a bit of a misnomer- it&#8217;s not conflict itself that kills people, but rather the secondary impact on health, education, lack of jobs etc. Conflict related deaths would be much higher.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the subject of funding and funders for road safety, this is a newer topic for funders than, say tobacco. However, there are now major corporates and philanthropists putting real funds towards well developed and proven road safety practices, The Global Road Safety Partnership works with governments, civil society and leading corporate entities to deliver road safety projects in low- and middle-income countries around the world: take a look www.grsproadsafety.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the subject of funding and funders for road safety, this is a newer topic for funders than, say tobacco. However, there are now major corporates and philanthropists putting real funds towards well developed and proven road safety practices, The Global Road Safety Partnership works with governments, civil society and leading corporate entities to deliver road safety projects in low- and middle-income countries around the world: take a look <a href="http://www.grsproadsafety.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.grsproadsafety.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: Matt Greenall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Greenall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Mar 2013 13:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think part of the problem is that aid for health is primarily channeled through the health sector, but the problems you have identified are not things that ministries of health are very good at dealing at.

If you think about some of the things that have been a priority for health aid - such as HIV and other infectious diseases, family planning, childhood health - a large proportion of the funding goes to biomedical interventions.  Interestingly enough, I suspect this focus ends up limiting the impact of these programmes.  More could be achieved if more attention was also paid to &quot;structural&quot; (non health sector) interventions that can help tackle these problems. While it is clear that there are more or less popular issues at any given point in time, I reckon a big part of the challenge here is about how public health is conceptualised.

I think Duncan is right to list the second criterion - there&#039;s no point in spending money on something that we have no idea how to fix. But I also agree with the comments that this should not just be about aid donors deciding; it should be about all relevant decision makers (in particular the governments responsible for looking after the health of their people).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think part of the problem is that aid for health is primarily channeled through the health sector, but the problems you have identified are not things that ministries of health are very good at dealing at.</p>
<p>If you think about some of the things that have been a priority for health aid &#8211; such as HIV and other infectious diseases, family planning, childhood health &#8211; a large proportion of the funding goes to biomedical interventions.  Interestingly enough, I suspect this focus ends up limiting the impact of these programmes.  More could be achieved if more attention was also paid to &#8220;structural&#8221; (non health sector) interventions that can help tackle these problems. While it is clear that there are more or less popular issues at any given point in time, I reckon a big part of the challenge here is about how public health is conceptualised.</p>
<p>I think Duncan is right to list the second criterion &#8211; there&#8217;s no point in spending money on something that we have no idea how to fix. But I also agree with the comments that this should not just be about aid donors deciding; it should be about all relevant decision makers (in particular the governments responsible for looking after the health of their people).</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Mar 2013 08:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On road traffic , can you see the Daily Mail headlines when UK aid is spent on building a roundabout ? , or an Oxfam campaign to encourage the overweight in developing countries to take more exercise ?
Donors don&#039;t want to fund it , that&#039;s why these thing don&#039;t get funding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On road traffic , can you see the Daily Mail headlines when UK aid is spent on building a roundabout ? , or an Oxfam campaign to encourage the overweight in developing countries to take more exercise ?<br />
Donors don&#8217;t want to fund it , that&#8217;s why these thing don&#8217;t get funding.</p>
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		<title>By: Duncan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2013 15:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good challenge Joe! So let&#039;s take road traffic - hard to see what vested interests would want to prevent aid donors and governments working together to reduce needless fatalities. So not interests, but what about the other &#039;i&#039;s&#039; - incentives and ideas. No incentives because not much money to be made out of it? Or a blockage on ideas because RTAs are seen as somehow northern/ don&#039;t fit the development imaginary? But there are countervailing incentives - lots more powerful middle class people are affected than by, say diarrhoea or maybe even malaria, so there out to be a political constituency for work on road traffic.

Cd do similar exercise on alcohol and tobacco (interests - booze and cig companies; incentives - tax revenue), migration (main incentives political rather than economic), disability (ideas - prejudice and denial). 

So who&#039;s volunteering to do a matrix on drivers/blockers for work on different cinderella issues, against interests/incentives/ideas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good challenge Joe! So let&#8217;s take road traffic &#8211; hard to see what vested interests would want to prevent aid donors and governments working together to reduce needless fatalities. So not interests, but what about the other &#8216;i&#8217;s&#8217; &#8211; incentives and ideas. No incentives because not much money to be made out of it? Or a blockage on ideas because RTAs are seen as somehow northern/ don&#8217;t fit the development imaginary? But there are countervailing incentives &#8211; lots more powerful middle class people are affected than by, say diarrhoea or maybe even malaria, so there out to be a political constituency for work on road traffic.</p>
<p>Cd do similar exercise on alcohol and tobacco (interests &#8211; booze and cig companies; incentives &#8211; tax revenue), migration (main incentives political rather than economic), disability (ideas &#8211; prejudice and denial). </p>
<p>So who&#8217;s volunteering to do a matrix on drivers/blockers for work on different cinderella issues, against interests/incentives/ideas?</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2013 12:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely these issues have to be considered from a perspective of power and incentives. It is because of the way &#039;power&#039; is allocated that they are not being tackled. It must be a bad day, Duncan, if you are switching off the most important part of the debate. It is like Chavez saying &#039;suppose market forces really work...&#039; More on power please, Duncan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely these issues have to be considered from a perspective of power and incentives. It is because of the way &#8216;power&#8217; is allocated that they are not being tackled. It must be a bad day, Duncan, if you are switching off the most important part of the debate. It is like Chavez saying &#8217;suppose market forces really work&#8230;&#8217; More on power please, Duncan.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 12:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can I fly the flag for donors ?
What if we allocated aid money based on the criteria of what donors , tax-payers and individuals want it spent on ?
Why is the list of what donors want to spend money on , different from what the aid industry believes is effective aid ? Are donors just mule-headed or have we done a bad job in explaining ourselves ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I fly the flag for donors ?<br />
What if we allocated aid money based on the criteria of what donors , tax-payers and individuals want it spent on ?<br />
Why is the list of what donors want to spend money on , different from what the aid industry believes is effective aid ? Are donors just mule-headed or have we done a bad job in explaining ourselves ?</p>
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		<title>By: Duncan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 10:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well no, actually - household smoke leads to focus on energy poverty, road traffic on road safety, alcohol and tobacco on regulation of TNCs selling lethal products. On your wider point, obviously there are a wide range of factors, but my question is, which ones do the rich countries actually have a relative advantage in being able to fix? Economy and politics not so much, judging by current state of Europe. Environment arguable more so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well no, actually &#8211; household smoke leads to focus on energy poverty, road traffic on road safety, alcohol and tobacco on regulation of TNCs selling lethal products. On your wider point, obviously there are a wide range of factors, but my question is, which ones do the rich countries actually have a relative advantage in being able to fix? Economy and politics not so much, judging by current state of Europe. Environment arguable more so.</p>
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		<title>By: Duncan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 10:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair criticism, Alan. I was just making the point that even with a very instrumental, outsiderish, old fashioned approach to aid as $ + technical assistance, the gap between a logical and actual agenda is huge. (And now you&#039;ve raised the comparison with Lomborg, I&#039;m really worried!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair criticism, Alan. I was just making the point that even with a very instrumental, outsiderish, old fashioned approach to aid as $ + technical assistance, the gap between a logical and actual agenda is huge. (And now you&#8217;ve raised the comparison with Lomborg, I&#8217;m really worried!)</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Hudson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Hudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 09:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. Looks similar to Bjorn Lomborg&#039;s Copenhagen Consensus stuff. www.copenhagenconsensus.com

Seems weird that the second criterion is &quot;do outsiders know how to fix the problems?&quot; Doesn&#039;t that reflect an outdated view of how development happens? A bit aid and outsider centric?

Actually, the first one should also take more account of what people in developing countries regard as the priority issues too shouldn&#039;t it.

All in all, this is a bit outsiders looking in and making decisions isn&#039;t it?!

best,
alan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. Looks similar to Bjorn Lomborg&#8217;s Copenhagen Consensus stuff. <a href="http://www.copenhagenconsensus.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.copenhagenconsensus.com</a></p>
<p>Seems weird that the second criterion is &#8220;do outsiders know how to fix the problems?&#8221; Doesn&#8217;t that reflect an outdated view of how development happens? A bit aid and outsider centric?</p>
<p>Actually, the first one should also take more account of what people in developing countries regard as the priority issues too shouldn&#8217;t it.</p>
<p>All in all, this is a bit outsiders looking in and making decisions isn&#8217;t it?!</p>
<p>best,<br />
alan</p>
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