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	<title>Comments on: Why don’t people in power do the right thing &#8211; supply, demand or collective action problem? And what do we do about it?</title>
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		<title>By: Michael Woolcock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Woolcock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 14:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this interesting post Duncan. In recent work I&#039;ve done with Lant Pritchett and Matt Andrews, we&#039;ve called this new approach PDIA: Problem-Driven Iterative Adaption. (See Working Paper No. 299 at the Center for Global Development. Our approach has elements closely aligned with those you&#039;ve listed.) We are open to a better name, but let&#039;s acknowledge that we are trying to name the same broad thing and settle on something so that the alternative to prevailing orthodoxy at least has a name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this interesting post Duncan. In recent work I&#8217;ve done with Lant Pritchett and Matt Andrews, we&#8217;ve called this new approach PDIA: Problem-Driven Iterative Adaption. (See Working Paper No. 299 at the Center for Global Development. Our approach has elements closely aligned with those you&#8217;ve listed.) We are open to a better name, but let&#8217;s acknowledge that we are trying to name the same broad thing and settle on something so that the alternative to prevailing orthodoxy at least has a name.</p>
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		<title>By: Mohammed Kibirige</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mohammed Kibirige</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 15:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a problem. The beneficiaries usually have no say in what happens next. Everything is negotiated on their behalf by people who claim to know what needs to be done. How do you improve people&#039;s knowldge? Inform and educate. Simple messageslike water and sanitation made a difference to the developed world. We have not made this accessible to most poor people!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a problem. The beneficiaries usually have no say in what happens next. Everything is negotiated on their behalf by people who claim to know what needs to be done. How do you improve people&#8217;s knowldge? Inform and educate. Simple messageslike water and sanitation made a difference to the developed world. We have not made this accessible to most poor people!!</p>
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		<title>By: Gareth Price-Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gareth Price-Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 11:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David&#039;s comment above about agency seems to be critical.

Its worth noting that although it probably (definitely) increases the risks involved, building stuff isn&#039;t always a distraction. Done in the right way it can demonstrate that beneficiaries/donors/governments/other actors do have meaningful choices, and as a result it can often both influence and enable the access to the range of powerholders needed for effective convening and brokering.

We&#039;ve found in a recent Consortium delivered resilient Shelter and WASH project (which used the opportunities coming out of a disaster as a catalyst for change) that the hardware element ticked a lot of the &#039;traditional&#039; and less traditional boxes (Value for money, Measurable, Reportable and Verifiable spending that fits some of the requirements for Adaptation funding, very visible impact on lots of people) while also getting the attention of communities, government and donors, and demonstrating that substantive change is possible in a rapidly worsening environment where its easy to believe that nothing can be done. 

As a not insignificant additional benefit, being a large project it enabled us to pay for the meetings, staff and partner time needed for complex analysis, research, advocacy and strategic thinking. 

By delivering successfully we have really bolstered our allies in the National Government (which on the whole sees non-government action as expensive and ineffective) and supported them in their own debates within government about the most effective ways to respond to massive gaps in realising basic rights. Our partners on the other hand, see the limitations of even successful delivery, and are actively exploring how they can leverage it through communities and other programs to make a genuinely strategic contribution.

Certainly won&#039;t suit all situations, and its a long race after the official project &#039;end&#039; to get the strategic changes needed, but the potential is real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David&#8217;s comment above about agency seems to be critical.</p>
<p>Its worth noting that although it probably (definitely) increases the risks involved, building stuff isn&#8217;t always a distraction. Done in the right way it can demonstrate that beneficiaries/donors/governments/other actors do have meaningful choices, and as a result it can often both influence and enable the access to the range of powerholders needed for effective convening and brokering.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve found in a recent Consortium delivered resilient Shelter and WASH project (which used the opportunities coming out of a disaster as a catalyst for change) that the hardware element ticked a lot of the &#8216;traditional&#8217; and less traditional boxes (Value for money, Measurable, Reportable and Verifiable spending that fits some of the requirements for Adaptation funding, very visible impact on lots of people) while also getting the attention of communities, government and donors, and demonstrating that substantive change is possible in a rapidly worsening environment where its easy to believe that nothing can be done. </p>
<p>As a not insignificant additional benefit, being a large project it enabled us to pay for the meetings, staff and partner time needed for complex analysis, research, advocacy and strategic thinking. </p>
<p>By delivering successfully we have really bolstered our allies in the National Government (which on the whole sees non-government action as expensive and ineffective) and supported them in their own debates within government about the most effective ways to respond to massive gaps in realising basic rights. Our partners on the other hand, see the limitations of even successful delivery, and are actively exploring how they can leverage it through communities and other programs to make a genuinely strategic contribution.</p>
<p>Certainly won&#8217;t suit all situations, and its a long race after the official project &#8216;end&#8217; to get the strategic changes needed, but the potential is real.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Carter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 08:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it donors that you need to get on board with this approach or the people who vote for the politicians who decide what aid agencies are held accountable for?  If we&#039;re all really looking for quick fixes and silver bullets, there will always be people in power willing to offer them.  For labels for the approach &quot;A humanist approach to development&quot;, or &quot;Long-term experimental learning?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it donors that you need to get on board with this approach or the people who vote for the politicians who decide what aid agencies are held accountable for?  If we&#8217;re all really looking for quick fixes and silver bullets, there will always be people in power willing to offer them.  For labels for the approach &#8220;A humanist approach to development&#8221;, or &#8220;Long-term experimental learning?</p>
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		<title>By: Julie Fisher Melton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie Fisher Melton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2013 23:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am particularly interested in this because my forthcoming book is one third about Tajikistan.  Importing Democracy: The Role of NGOs in South Africa, Tajikistan and Argentina. (www.importingdemocracy.org)

In terms of the questions you ask, take a look at the Good Governance Learning Network in South Africa, initiated by IDASA, a national (and indeed  continental African) democratization NGO. However about 15 local democratization NGOs develop participatory tools that they use to make their local muncipal governments more accountable-- and they share them with each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am particularly interested in this because my forthcoming book is one third about Tajikistan.  Importing Democracy: The Role of NGOs in South Africa, Tajikistan and Argentina. (www.importingdemocracy.org)</p>
<p>In terms of the questions you ask, take a look at the Good Governance Learning Network in South Africa, initiated by IDASA, a national (and indeed  continental African) democratization NGO. However about 15 local democratization NGOs develop participatory tools that they use to make their local muncipal governments more accountable&#8211; and they share them with each other.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d echo the last comment.
What would make a donor contribute to this type of work ?
I look forward to when I can see your video above as the new Oxfam TV advert</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d echo the last comment.<br />
What would make a donor contribute to this type of work ?<br />
I look forward to when I can see your video above as the new Oxfam TV advert</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Duncan,

You asked, &quot;but what distinguishes useful convening-type meetings from pointless NGO gabfests&quot;? I don&#039;t have a crisp answer, but I&#039;d suggest that it lies somewhere in the contribution made to agency by the meeting. If either its participants have agency, and can therefore through the meeting start to align towards a collaborative reform process; or its participants do not have agency and acknowledge this, and spend time/energy in the meeting identifying pathways to inclusion of those with agency, it seems to me it will produce momentum.

If it is purely descriptive of &quot;what should happen/what we recommend&quot; or even &quot;why it doesn&#039;t happen&quot; it will, in most cases, be choir preaching. Those are valued points, to be sure, but only as part of an event or process with responsibility to generate change, not if analysis or issuing recommendations for a vague audience of everyone that matters is the whole purpose.

This also suggests an avenue for the transformative approach you mention - the meeting shouldn&#039;t consist only of those with agency, or it will not contribute to inclusion and in fact may reify exclusion. This is a tension within the with-the-grain idea.

Very curious to hear what others have to say about this, though. Thanks for sharing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Duncan,</p>
<p>You asked, &#8220;but what distinguishes useful convening-type meetings from pointless NGO gabfests&#8221;? I don&#8217;t have a crisp answer, but I&#8217;d suggest that it lies somewhere in the contribution made to agency by the meeting. If either its participants have agency, and can therefore through the meeting start to align towards a collaborative reform process; or its participants do not have agency and acknowledge this, and spend time/energy in the meeting identifying pathways to inclusion of those with agency, it seems to me it will produce momentum.</p>
<p>If it is purely descriptive of &#8220;what should happen/what we recommend&#8221; or even &#8220;why it doesn&#8217;t happen&#8221; it will, in most cases, be choir preaching. Those are valued points, to be sure, but only as part of an event or process with responsibility to generate change, not if analysis or issuing recommendations for a vague audience of everyone that matters is the whole purpose.</p>
<p>This also suggests an avenue for the transformative approach you mention &#8211; the meeting shouldn&#8217;t consist only of those with agency, or it will not contribute to inclusion and in fact may reify exclusion. This is a tension within the with-the-grain idea.</p>
<p>Very curious to hear what others have to say about this, though. Thanks for sharing!</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 11:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the summary of a very interesting discussion Duncan. Can you - or even better, someone from DFID or one of the other donors - give at least an initial response to your question on the role of donors? If they were in the room, as you mention in the video, someone must have tried to push them on it! This obviously relates to other discussions such as the Big Push Forward initiative... if NGOs can get beyond the official project narratives and link these to some interesting successes, could this provide some of the evidence base that DFID etc want?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the summary of a very interesting discussion Duncan. Can you &#8211; or even better, someone from DFID or one of the other donors &#8211; give at least an initial response to your question on the role of donors? If they were in the room, as you mention in the video, someone must have tried to push them on it! This obviously relates to other discussions such as the Big Push Forward initiative&#8230; if NGOs can get beyond the official project narratives and link these to some interesting successes, could this provide some of the evidence base that DFID etc want?</p>
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		<title>By: Søren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Søren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 10:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It isn&#039;t snappy or self-explanatory necessarily but in my mind, it&#039;ll be filed as the MED Approach (Multiple Equilibria Dynamics) for the time being. 

Multiple Equilibria for seeking to bring together interests and power in a more desirable way - and often supplying allocative and authoritative resources that can be drawn upon to upset the current probably. 
Dynamics for acknowledging that the world is in motion and interconnected, i.e. to exist, even ingrained structures are continuously being reproduced and are linked far beyond the immediate policy context, and so needs a &#039;solution&#039; to be approached too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It isn&#8217;t snappy or self-explanatory necessarily but in my mind, it&#8217;ll be filed as the MED Approach (Multiple Equilibria Dynamics) for the time being. </p>
<p>Multiple Equilibria for seeking to bring together interests and power in a more desirable way &#8211; and often supplying allocative and authoritative resources that can be drawn upon to upset the current probably.<br />
Dynamics for acknowledging that the world is in motion and interconnected, i.e. to exist, even ingrained structures are continuously being reproduced and are linked far beyond the immediate policy context, and so needs a &#8217;solution&#8217; to be approached too.</p>
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		<title>By: Alanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 10:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel this little thrill every time you write about Oxfam&#039;s Tajikistan program. It&#039;s like watching my friends get famous. Everyone in Dushanbe always knew that team does great work and it&#039;s nice to see it recognized!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel this little thrill every time you write about Oxfam&#8217;s Tajikistan program. It&#8217;s like watching my friends get famous. Everyone in Dushanbe always knew that team does great work and it&#8217;s nice to see it recognized!</p>
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