Comments on: The hidden cost of hamburgers http://www.oxfamblogs.org/fp2p/?p=11214 duncan green poverty to power oxfam development Wed, 22 May 2013 09:54:38 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: Richard http://www.oxfamblogs.org/fp2p/?p=11214&cpage=1#comment-230202 Richard Wed, 29 Aug 2012 10:38:46 +0000 http://www.oxfamblogs.org/fp2p/?p=11214#comment-230202 Another recommendation: Simon Fairlie's excellent (so far, I'm half way through) book <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Meat-benign-extravagance-Simon-Fairlie/dp/1856230554" rel="nofollow">'Meat - A Benign Extravagance'</a>, which is a forensic examination of the environmental impacts of livestock. His demolition of dodgy stats employed by those of all ideological persuasions is brilliant. Another recommendation: Simon Fairlie’s excellent (so far, I’m half way through) book ‘Meat – A Benign Extravagance’, which is a forensic examination of the environmental impacts of livestock. His demolition of dodgy stats employed by those of all ideological persuasions is brilliant.

]]> By: World watcher http://www.oxfamblogs.org/fp2p/?p=11214&cpage=1#comment-229565 World watcher Tue, 28 Aug 2012 19:53:37 +0000 http://www.oxfamblogs.org/fp2p/?p=11214#comment-229565 See 'The hidden cost of hamburgers is greater than reported' by Robert Goodland in the Earth Island Journal at http://www.earthisland.org/journal/index.php/elist/eListRead/hidden_cost_of_hamburgers_is_greater_than_reported -- and the video that CIR should have published at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znWPebWBTWY See ‘The hidden cost of hamburgers is greater than reported’ by Robert Goodland in the Earth Island Journal at http://www.earthisland.org/journal/index.php/elist/eListRead/hidden_cost_of_hamburgers_is_greater_than_reported — and the video that CIR should have published at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znWPebWBTWY

]]> By: Clare Scott http://www.oxfamblogs.org/fp2p/?p=11214&cpage=1#comment-225542 Clare Scott Sat, 25 Aug 2012 10:17:43 +0000 http://www.oxfamblogs.org/fp2p/?p=11214#comment-225542 The film Food Inc. (http://www.foodincmovie.co.uk/)is an excellent documentary on beef and other meat production in the USA. Available via LoveFilm or Blockbuster or to buy from Amazon. Not sure that production in the UK is anything like that in the States, especially the use of corn/maize in feed, but it has the potential to go in that direction, especially with the tendency towards large-scale cattle rearing. The film Food Inc. (http://www.foodincmovie.co.uk/)is an excellent documentary on beef and other meat production in the USA. Available via LoveFilm or Blockbuster or to buy from Amazon.

Not sure that production in the UK is anything like that in the States, especially the use of corn/maize in feed, but it has the potential to go in that direction, especially with the tendency towards large-scale cattle rearing.

]]> By: Clare Scott http://www.oxfamblogs.org/fp2p/?p=11214&cpage=1#comment-225540 Clare Scott Sat, 25 Aug 2012 10:12:38 +0000 http://www.oxfamblogs.org/fp2p/?p=11214#comment-225540 Richard, doesn't it matter how the manure is treated? I had understood that the problem with the CAFOs (Concentrated Animal Feeding Operations) in which cattle in the US are kept is that the manure from them goes into enormous lagoons. Yes, the majority of methane emissions from CAFOs is still from the cattle's digestive gasses, but there's still a significant amount of methane produced by these slurry pits, not to mention the stench and the potential for ground water pollution. See Wikipedia entry on CAFOs. Richard, doesn’t it matter how the manure is treated? I had understood that the problem with the CAFOs (Concentrated Animal Feeding Operations) in which cattle in the US are kept is that the manure from them goes into enormous lagoons. Yes, the majority of methane emissions from CAFOs is still from the cattle’s digestive gasses, but there’s still a significant amount of methane produced by these slurry pits, not to mention the stench and the potential for ground water pollution. See Wikipedia entry on CAFOs.

]]> By: Richard King http://www.oxfamblogs.org/fp2p/?p=11214&cpage=1#comment-225259 Richard King Fri, 24 Aug 2012 22:31:25 +0000 http://www.oxfamblogs.org/fp2p/?p=11214#comment-225259 Great video, but in the interests of pedantry I'm compelled to point out that 98% of methane produced by ruminants' digestive systems (through the process of enteric fermentation) is <a href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1007/s10584-008-9506-x" rel="nofollow">expelled through the nose and mouth</a>. Manure is not a significant source of methane, though, as the video notes, it is a potent source of nitrous oxide. Great video, but in the interests of pedantry I’m compelled to point out that 98% of methane produced by ruminants’ digestive systems (through the process of enteric fermentation) is expelled through the nose and mouth. Manure is not a significant source of methane, though, as the video notes, it is a potent source of nitrous oxide.

]]> By: John Magrath http://www.oxfamblogs.org/fp2p/?p=11214&cpage=1#comment-224314 John Magrath Fri, 24 Aug 2012 09:59:14 +0000 http://www.oxfamblogs.org/fp2p/?p=11214#comment-224314 Thanks for highlighting that. Wow, that is a powerful video - very thought-provoking! Thanks for highlighting that. Wow, that is a powerful video – very thought-provoking!

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